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Dibble Tree Building, 1d Ferrier Street, Carnoustie, Angus, DD7 7EE

This property – ‘as is’ …

£33,000

HM Land Registry Title is Feuhold which is the best quality available.

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Change of Use

Subject To Planning Permission

The former use of this building was as a public convenience. The local planning department have responded positively to possible change of use.

The local authority have been very helpful and given some pre-planning advice for the Carnoustie Dibble Tree Building…

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Close To The Carnoustie Golf Course

This building has road frontage directly onto Ferrier Street, which leads directly to the world renowned Carnoustie Golf Course & Links.

Possible uses:-

Dog grooming salon or similar enterprise (subject to planning permission), even just as a simple storage unit…

Plan for guidance only, please do not scale.

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Measurements

Prospective purchasers will need to satisfy themselves as to the internal floorspace and measurements. To help, as a very approximate guidance, we have the general dimensions as:-

Front Premises Area 1 – Maximum: 12’1″ x 15′ 6″

Side Premises Area 2 – Maximum: 12’1″ x 11’6″

Washroom & WC Facility – Maximum:  6’0″ x 6’4″

Please note, these are the maximum dimensions – the actual usable floorspace is less that a straight multiplier of width times length due to the internal wall layout.

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Offers

Offers over £33,000 are sought for the whole building.

To make an offer, please telephone/text: 0785 177 5487 and we shall introduce you to our legal conveyancer who will then sort out the paperwork. Thankyou.

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Alternatively

The local gardening society (Colourful Carnoustie) look after the historic “Dibble Tree”. Our building overlooks this tree.

This may seem an unsusual matter to raise in a sale document. At first impression the local gardening group making this area pleasing for the neighbourhood would appear a good thing… 

When the “Colourful Carnoustie” gardening group placed a park bench at the back of our building in good faith, they did not realise how adversely the neighbours would react…

Schoolchildren congregated in the hidden part behind the old loos and the noise, litter and rowdy nature became a matter of local concern. Whilst generally good natured, there was a lot of disruption and a significant amount of debris/litter after school lunchtimes.

The bench was removed after a week, and requests were made to us to fence off this hidden part behind our building. This is not within our gift.

We mention this, as the received wisdom is the local authority may be amenable to selling the relatively small plot at the back of the loo. Angus Council are financially hard-up and any monies ingathered are much appreciated.

The council would receive a few thousand pounds for this piece of land and on the back of this, we understand that our building plot size would then be much more likely to achieve RESIDENTIAL permission for demolition of the toilet block and a newbuild of a home on the enlarged footprint. There is a valid case to present to the local authority for this as the new house would pay Council Tax and that, whilst modest, would increase their income.

Better still, if the plot to the rear of our building is bought, then that may enable an enterprising person to approach the Dibble Tree Theatre charity: click here and here (pdf accounts: here) to see if they might sell a small part of their land too.

The neighbouring charity owns a large parcel of land and is currently on a significant fundraising effort: click here.

If the current WC Toilet Block had double the footprint and gained planning permission for use as a home, then the proximity to Carnoustie Golf Course would make it particularly attractive.

None of this can be guaranteed, but it does open some interesting possibilities.

It is most likely the neighbours and the local authority wish to see the old toilet cease it’s previous purpose and become something more aesthetically pleasing. From this perspective either our own company, or a new owner is likely to garner support for a new use. Providing local sensibilities are taken into consideration. 

We are currently looking to sell the property as shortly after it’s purchase we were lucky enough to secure our dream home – a lighthouse. So the old WC project has taken a back seat for the time being. Ideally we would like to sell it. However, if no sale happens in the next few months, we are likely to apply for planning permission ourselves, and also see if we can buy the plot/plots of ground to the rear of the building to enhance the option of a newbuild house.

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Local Attraction

The side premises has a pleasant outlook across a grassed area towards the famous local Carnoustie landmark, the Dibble Tree.

The Dibble Tree – Carnoustie Landmark.

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Facilities

The building for sale has mains electricity and plumbing. Also included in the sale is the Washroom and WC facility (shaded cream on the plan drawing above), exclusively by the tenants of the two parts of this building. 

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Interior – Former Ladies WC Area

Requires toilets removing and walls dry lining and tanking.

Interior photograph of the current layout and configuration.

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Future Use

The current owners purchased the Carnoustie WC property in 2017. Prior to this, they have bought, refurbished and re-opened 24 closed buildings since 1999. Normally old, closed shops, empty hotels, defunct light industrial units. During the past 18 years, over 100 jobs have been created. In this 25th purchase, the challenge of what some might regard as a problematic property – an old public convenience – is to find a meaningful use. The question of what can be done with an old public convenience is a curious one.

Some folk have turned them into very successful cafes…

Capital Cafe Culture

The pressures for commercial space in London are very high, and this underground cafe transformed from the previous incarnation as old cludgie has a touch of marketing genius about it (here). Articles have appears in the national media (click here).

London Loo Alternative Use Solution – An Underground Cafe.

Our own considered view is that Carnoustie has some very nice eateries and the thought of a latte at a loo is not something we are too keen on.

Latte At A Loo? Would You?

During 2017 our group of friends had decided to buy the empty and unloved little building in Ferrier Street, Carnoustie. Partly because of the very nice outlook over the Dibble Tree and grassed area, and also for the challenge in finding a new use for this property. Also the location near to the Carnoustie Golf Course and sea front is very attractive.

Then a lightbulb eureka moment. A friend was getting her dog groomed and we thought this former convenience would make an excellent pet pampering place…

Old Carnoustie Loo To Pet Pleasing Place?

Use as a dog grooming salon his is of course just a suggestion. The Ladies section in particular would lend itself to use as an office or given the close proximity to the Golf Course, possibly a golf shop facility of some sort.

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Location

This detached building is located just a five minute walk directly along Ferrier Street towards the seafront and world famous Carnoustie Golf Course.

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Contact

If you would like to make an offer to buy this building, please…  

Telephone or text:

0785 177 5487